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02-15-2010

Joel Fuhrman MD talks about diets that don’t work, and nutrient density as the key to healthy eating. The full 90-minute talk is available on DVD at http://www.vegsource.com and click “store.”

To learn more about Dr. Fuhrman, visit him on his website at http://www.drfuhrman.com/

Duration : 0:5:43


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On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, Paradise737 said: |

If anyone has any …
If anyone has any WELL-ARTICULATED counterarguments to anything I’ve said, I’d be glad to respond.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, okvideos5 said: |

No what everything …
No what everything you said was wrong, and YOU are irrelevant.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, Paradise737 said: |

Not only is …
Not only is everything you said wrong, but it’s also irrelevant.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, Paradise737 said: |

Maybe the Western …
Maybe the Western diet isn’t healthy, but the solution isn’t to try to consume as many vitamins and minerals as possible. That’s my only point here.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, okvideos5 said: |

“adequate” means …
“adequate” means the minimum needed not to cause acute disease. However, I assure you that a western diet is deficient in nutrients and not a healthy way to get nutrients.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, okvideos5 said: |

WHAT? Typical …
WHAT? Typical western societies are over carbohydrates/calories and under nutrition!!!!!!! Human life CAN be sustained on broccoli, spinach, and the many other edible plants.

Amino acids and Fatty acids found in plants are required in your diet. Carbohydrates are unnecessary.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, sexyjumanny said: |

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On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, drtouchinsky said: |

@Paradise737

If …
@Paradise737

If you’re eating the right types of foods, it’s impossible to overdose on a single nutrient. This is different than taking a bottle of Vit A. It’s food. Plus, if you eat a variety of foods, like he suggestions, it’s a non-issue. However, I’d love to see any reports you know of where someone overdosed on a vitamin because they ate too many nutrient dense foods!

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, Paradise737 said: |

I wouldn’t have a …
I wouldn’t have a problem if he simply recommended people to eat more fruits and vegetables than they do.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, Paradise737 said: |

Maybe, but what …
Maybe, but what Fuhrman recommends is eating as many vitamins and minerals as possible, and it’s naive to think that that’s healthy, or even helpful.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, Paradise737 said: |

The premise of the …
The premise of the video is that the higher the ratio of vitamins/minerals to calories, the healthier you’ll be.

All I’m saying is that makes no sense. Your body has a set requirement for vitamins and minerals and a set requirement for calories (including protein and essential fatty acids). You should aim to meet your nutritional needs, no more, no less.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, drtouchinsky said: |

@Paradise737

Ok, …
@Paradise737

Ok, severely was the wrong word. But most people are deficient. It leads to a variety of health issues such as chronic fatigue, hypothyroidism, RA, MS, you name it. Get these people on a more nutrient rich diet, and it does wonders.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, Paradise737 said: |

“Most people are …
“Most people are severely deficient in many nutrients.”

No–they’re not. The Western diet is adequate in all vitamins and minerals. There may be some slight deficiencies in a couple common nutrients, but nothing “severe”, and definitely nothing life-threatening. Ask any licensed physician how often they see a case of “severe nutrient deficiency.”

The people who really are severely nutrient deficient are the ones who don’t have access to enough food. Starving kids in Africa, or whatever.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, drtouchinsky said: |

@Paradise737

I …
@Paradise737

I don’t think you’d become calorie deficient, but Fuhrman is not saying eat only those foods with a 1000 rating or higher. Grains, healthy meat and dairy choices, etc. can give you what you need. This isn’t an all or nothing thing. I don’t think anyone is suggesting eating only kale all the time.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, Paradise737 said: |

That’s neither here …
That’s neither here nor there. If we were to eat according to Fuhrman’s chart, we would become calorie deficient. While overnutrition is a real problem for most Western societies, I would much rather be overweight than starved. Unless you can think of a way to sustain a human life on spinach and broccoli?

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, drtouchinsky said: |

@Paradise737


@Paradise737

Again, I think if you look at most people, they are severely deficient in many nutrients. So, they need to consume nutrient dense foods to supply what they need on a daily basis and make up for what they’ve been missing for years.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, drtouchinsky said: |

@Paradise737


@Paradise737

You’re missing the point though. Most people consume excessive amounts of calories. We’re not roaming the plains depending on calorie dense foods to survive.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, Paradise737 said: |

I love fruits and …
I love fruits and vegetables as much as the next guy, but I think this chart is misguided and misleading.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, Paradise737 said: |

2. That the more …
2. That the more vitamins and minerals a diet contains, the better.

This is false. Your body has a set requirement for vitamins and minerals; once you surpass that set requirement, vitamins and minerals are virtually worthless. This chart would make it seem like you should eat as many high-vitamin foods as possible. No, you should aim to meet your body’s requirements, which is *easily* possible, even if you eat mostly foods at the bottom of the chart.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, Paradise737 said: |

Fuhrman’s nutrrient …
Fuhrman’s nutrrient density chart lies on two incorrect principles:

1. That calories and macronutrients are not healthy.

By the very nature of the chart, high-calorie foods will turn up low on the list. Since calories are essential to the diet, it’s bewildering why foods should be penalized for containing them. Kale has a score that’s 43x as large as whole milk’s score, and yet, milk would sustain human life much longer than kale could, so that seems a bit misleading.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, Mentat1231 said: |

What ABOUT taurine? …
What ABOUT taurine? Taurine is a non-essential amino-acid produced in the liver. The majority of people do not require much (if any) taurine from dietary sources. Indeed, taurine deficiency is usually linked to low cysteine and B6 levels, not to a low dietary intake of the amino itself.

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, ncfwhitetigress said: |

what about taurine?
what about taurine?

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, tealfarm said: |

believe me, he …
believe me, he knows. recommends and even sells on his site!

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, RISINGUPfoodnhealth said: |

This is a wonderful …
This is a wonderful clip. If Dr Fuhrman was my Doctor, I wouldn’t need to be my own doctor :)

On Feb 15 2010 @ 10:32, green2lean said: |

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LifeRegenerator is motivating!

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